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Post by inkedpiercedemo » 15 Oct 2008, 11:56 am

which place did u snap those pics??

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Post by hk20 » 15 Oct 2008, 5:57 pm

i cannot comment cause the pictures are too BIG to view and so what do i comment on..please reduce the size of the pictures . would be more better a view .

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Post by kingkenny » 24 Oct 2008, 12:43 am

Eleanor wrote:Car lowered - 2 finger gap between the tire n Fender, thinking lower(one finger gap) Negative camber on the rear wheels, but i heard its good on the grip- ehh albertho,kenny ?
front usually more 1 degree negative camber than the rear . sample if you have -1 rear camber , front is going to -2 or more . front wheel drive rule !!

i hate to go too low on my daily drive too .

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Post by Eleanor » 24 Oct 2008, 12:46 am

kingkenny wrote:
Eleanor wrote:Car lowered - 2 finger gap between the tire n Fender, thinking lower(one finger gap) Negative camber on the rear wheels, but i heard its good on the grip- ehh albertho,kenny ?
front usually more 1 degree negative camber than the rear . sample if you have -1 rear camber , front is going to -2 or more . front wheel drive rule !!

i hate to go too low on my daily drive too .

thanks kenny for the comments - being waiting ....

the thing is - i still need to go lower especially on th Rear end.
so u mean - the front should be lower than the Rear ?

right now .... their pretty much all equal ... please advice ...

thankyou kenny

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Post by kingkenny » 24 Oct 2008, 12:57 am

Eleanor wrote:the thing is - i still need to go lower especially on th Rear end.
so u mean - the front should be lower than the Rear ?

right now .... their pretty much all equal ... please advice ...
kenny's front wheel drive rule number 2 , front always lower than the rear !! :D

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Post by kingkenny » 24 Oct 2008, 1:20 am

camber and ride height is 2 different thing , altought adjust the ride high will be also result in camber change . you should setup your ride height first , than setup the suspension .

i remeber ek front toe , rear toe and rear camber are adjustable from stock , the rest is non-adjustable .

i will suggest , get the front camber kit ,so you can get something between -1.5 to -2.0(over -2.0 will eat your tires badly) , reduse negative camber on the rear as much as you can , something -0.5 to -1.0 should be fine .

front toe out something between 0.6mm to 1.2mm , as for you i think no more than 0.9mm , casue 1.2 cost you a lot of tires .

rear toe 0 , or toe out a bit if you like oversteer , but please don't try more than 0.6 toe out , for your own safey reason.

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Post by Eleanor » 24 Oct 2008, 11:52 am

ok im gonna need more info on what exactly is :

Toe in
Toe out
How do i adjust the rear camber ? or what do i look for to tune it ?

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Post by kingkenny » 24 Oct 2008, 1:55 pm

there is a lot of info around , i also post it somewhere in the forum before . try google ,search alighment , caster , toe and camber .

you only need front camber kit .

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Post by Eleanor » 25 Oct 2008, 2:27 am

well kenny -
i understood whts camber and toe , but im still trying to figure out wht Caster is about .... steering axis tilted forward of rearward .... im not to sure wht the steering axis is about... ill read a bit more n hopefully will get it ... lol ....

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Post by Rogue » 25 Oct 2008, 10:06 am

great eleanor ... once u get it yeah explain it to me in simple words ... seriously man !!!

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Post by Eleanor » 25 Oct 2008, 11:16 am

lol ... just caster ??

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Post by toleg » 25 Oct 2008, 12:15 pm

^^^^ nice info's
just to add

front and rear camber cant be adjust in a stock EK
toe and caster can done... but not the best idea :$

some mechanic try to push and pull this things in a way that it will damage your bushing ....and only to show you in the monitor and printout that it is done... :D

but eventually will come back to normal seetings after while
- means your lucky coz
-they havent %#%$ your bushing
-they didnt use that much HP to push and full your suspension screw and under chassis screw

but if not :(
- then you are in trouble
coz they %#%$ your bushing as well as some screw

i say do it properly get an adjustable camber kit and toe as well (Y)
might be pricey but worth saving your wallet than replacing your tires easily.

BTW lowering your car that much will also spoil your front axle :(

be safe keep it simple and good luck

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Post by Eleanor » 25 Oct 2008, 6:01 pm

yeh - so i guess ill hve to get my camber kits. .....

one big question - what could spoil my axle ?????

(SCARED !!!! )

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Post by kingkenny » 25 Oct 2008, 10:53 pm

toleg wrote:^^^^ nice info's
just to add

front and rear camber cant be adjust in a stock EK
toe and caster can done... but not the best idea :$

some mechanic try to push and pull this things in a way that it will damage your bushing ....and only to show you in the monitor and printout that it is done... :D

but eventually will come back to normal seetings after while
- means your lucky coz
-they havent %#%$ your bushing
-they didnt use that much HP to push and full your suspension screw and under chassis screw

but if not :(
- then you are in trouble
coz they %#%$ your bushing as well as some screw

i say do it properly get an adjustable camber kit and toe as well (Y)
might be pricey but worth saving your wallet than replacing your tires easily.

BTW lowering your car that much will also spoil your front axle :(

be safe keep it simple and good luck
toleg , i'm pretty sure ek caster is non-adjustable , no!? may be my mistake(getting too old now :D )!! so far , i haven't see any adjustable caster in FWD with STOCK arm . not sure about the ek rear camber ..... usually most front wheel drive , have only front toe , rear toe and rear camber adjustment .

stock suspension bushing is soft and very flexable , i agree what you said , that why we all need a good wheel shop to do the alighment . that why hardcore track guys need stiffer suspension bushs .

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Post by kingkenny » 25 Oct 2008, 10:58 pm

Eleanor wrote:well kenny -
i understood whts camber and toe , but im still trying to figure out wht Caster is about .... steering axis tilted forward of rearward .... im not to sure wht the steering axis is about... ill read a bit more n hopefully will get it ... lol ....

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don't worry about your caster , cause your have no adjustment .



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